Comments on: Mig-29VFT video from “Smotr” tv-series

By: Kephart

Kephart — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:49:17 +0000

Of course, everyone who says the U.S. planes are not better are not American, and therefore have some sort of axe to grind against the U.S., and cannot be trusted to give unbiased opinions either. Of course the foregoing is nonsense, just as the comment that all Americans cannot make intelligent or unbiased comments….we all have biases…hate to break it to you, these are all opinions, and like assholes, everyone has one.

By: tomish

tomish — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:30:17 +0000

Hello there, i’m all for russian planes and technology but…PLEASE stop comparing it to the Raptor, it’s useless!F22 is the best thing in the air so far,and far superior in flight dynamics than mig29. Against what many people would think i find it’s weapons as it’s weakent point, AIM-120C and AIM-9 (current version) lag behind R77/74, and what 4++gen planes can do is to defend, escape being hit from long range, since amraams aren’t that agile (source APA), and the raptor will not engage in a merge because dogfight too deadly to risk a 150M plane, and also because russian planes can point the nose pretty much anywhere at slow speeds.
if i were to imagine a combat scenario, then the raptors would definately be the aggressors (USA post ww2 history tells that) acting over enemy territory, which complicates things due to air defences, so planes must have A2G ordnance as the SDB, that leaves even less room for AAMs, so an enemy might carry many more AAMs, only tactic viable make them expend round so they need to retreat. in reality usaf wouldn’t use just the raptors on an air strike, but then your forces aren’t stealthy anymore, and you can’t mix B2 with F22…anyways i wouldn’t be flying against an f22 in anything than T50,if it lives to its expectations of course…..my 5 pennies

By: Gutbuct

Gutbuct — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:29:32 +0000

Guys ive been litening to all the negative comment about the Mig 29 OVT….

ie weapons parameters / G’s and flyability
in combat conditions…

And the Eurofighter can out fly it ?

You gotta be kidding !

The Mig is outstanding in all respects….

Regarding flyability and pilot ability < any aircraft that has a positive thrust to weight ratio like the F15 & Mig 29 are superior…
Any aircraft that can fully manouver in zero energy conditions ” Has Less G ” on the pilots
only verigo throught eye/ear disorientation can be a problem because these aircraft can rotate and change direction so rapidly….

You must have enegry to create G !

And any aircraft can be locked down and missile shot unless it has good jammers and external distraction munitions….

Come on guys lets keep it real ok!

By: frank

frank — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:51:02 +0000

Mig 29ovt is the most agile fighter in the world todate.I’would like to see the Russian government give Mig design bureau the opportunity to build 5th generation light combact fighter jet to much F-35.Alot of pple get confused when they hear or read that f-22 can track enemy fighters from miles away, that’s true but remember the missiles are the one’s that bring down enemy planes thus of today their no known missiles that can travel the same distance as the radar tracking,if you compare the AIM sidewinder and the Russian counterpart the Russian missile fares well in all aspects by that I’mean in distance,maneuverability of the missile and immunity to decoy’s like chuff.So to put all this in one whole picture F-22 will be able to track let’s say Su-35 from longer distances but to shoot its missiles it will have to move to detection range from the Su-35 and who know’s what will happen from their,I’will let the aerospace enthusiast decide.

By: Alek

Alek — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:42:14 +0000

F-22 is another high-tech plane done by not Americans but by enginers form all over the world that live in USA so you cant really call it the American plane and take pride for it. So far what I seen what Mig and SU can do Id give some credit to russian for been broken apart and still come out with something like that it might be not as high-tach as F-22 but its close to it, its something that will be compared to f-22… In order to judge whitch plane is better we would need to see it in real. its like boxers, make a little mistake you could get knock out… So its all about pilots…

P.S I like the show that Su put on on airshow it was nice

By: sreevachan

sreevachan — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:05:51 +0000

thanks for the information

By: TVPC

TVPC — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:32:30 +0000

Nate made some good points, The maneuverability of the plane will be useless against a fighter opponent that is undetectable on radar.

By: Newman

Newman — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:06:20 +0000

The mig’s and Sukhoi make wonderful planes, but the Russian Air Force has been having a huge shortage of spare parts for decades now. Very little of their aircraft are still at adequate combat readiness. In addition, the USAF has the best aircraft support system thanks to the E-767’s. The myth that the f-22 is less maneuverable then Russian designs is untrue. F-22 have a built in handicap that prevents the aircraft from using its full potential because it would kill the pilot from the extreme G-forces. Also, the immense economic decline in the former Soviets makes putting a new generation fighter into production very difficult if not impossible. Add this to the mastery of stealth and fighter support of the Americans, the USAF will have the upper hand in air combat for decades. They remain the only nation truly capable of producing next generation fighters on a large scale basis by itself. I don’t see any current nation rising to challenge America any time in the near future. In my opinion, the Russians and the Americans should become close allies and stop mistrusting each other, both countries face similar problems after all and diplomatic disagreements only weaken both nations.

By: nate

nate — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:35:07 +0000

question - will a dogfight really be necessary if your radar / avionics are advanced enough to detect and fire on an enemy fighter? Although the phantoms at the start of Vietnam weren’t equipped with guns, the radar / avionics weren’t anywhere near technically advanced as they are today. I personally can’t imagine a scenario in today’s combat area that fighter planes would use guns. I may be naive.

This is my argument for the Raptor. I’ve heard that in mock combat trials against F15s, the Raptor won every single encouter, maily due to the fact that the 15 never saw the raptor on Radar. Never. They were completely invisible. Assuming that American Radar technology is at least as good as the Russians, wouldn’t this make the Raptor most effective fighter in today’s battlefield? I really don’t know many technical details of radar technology and real-world usefulness in air-to-air combat. I do know that the F14 used a phoenix missle with a range of 100 miles because it had the most advanced fighter-based radar of its day. Now that it’s been replaced by the f18, who cares. But it was a milestone in American Radar technology that gave it a definte edge in the battlefield.

BTW - UCAVs will eventually own the skies. It’s a long ways away, but it’s inevitable. the B2 bomber has a flight control computer that guides the plane to the pre-programmed target. The pilot is only engaged when ordinance is dropped or if the plane is ever detected on radar. That hasn’t happened yet, to my knowledge.

By: yoron

yoron — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:02:16 +0000

I’ve been reading you all with pleasure. All those planes are made for different roles So it must be very difficult to compare them. As for the best pilots, i thought that would be the Israelis? And if i ever was in a dogfight i would go for Mig-29OVT or maybe a Gripen. Not because they are the best all round but because they were built for that. Defending their homeland that is, and in a real situation i would probably use myself over my limits if necessary as we all would, and thats when the Mig-29OVT (and Gripen) will answer.

Cheers
Yoron.