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View Poll Results: The Best Fighter nomination
F-22 9 23.68%
F-35 1 2.63%
Su-30/35/37 21 55.26%
Mig-29/29M/29OVT 5 13.16%
F-15E/C 0 0%
Saab JAS39 Gripen 0 0%
Rafale 1 2.63%
Eurofighter 1 2.63%
F-16 Block 52 0 0%
F-18E/F 0 0%
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:42 AM
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Gabi is right. Besides, F-117 was the first ever true stealth plane. Extremely old tech...
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Nope I am shure that one F-117 was shot down by serbian mig-29 mabe there are more loses. And there ware battels betwin serbian and NATO fithers and I know that US fithers ware involved in close air fitghts whit the serbians becouse tree or more US short range and midiom renge missiles fell on bulgarian teretory(one hit a house near the borther and another in Sofia).

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Old 07-27-2006, 11:19 AM
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if one F-117 been shot down - in more than hundred missions "in enemy zone" that means that stealth doesn't work ? come on

of course you can shoot down a stealth plane - but with big effort and an ass full of luck
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It worcks but is not usefull and I am saing that becouse is not invisibal as same say you can see it was not good. And B-52 was used in more missions than F-117 and I dont know if eny of them was shot down.

And the F-117 is more stelthy than F-22 or F-35.

The stelth tecnology is not something unice the Germans ware developing that concept during the second world war. Stelth has to do a lot with the shape of the plane whith can make it less manivarabel and tikes a way maney other characteristics of the plane. You can have wepons in internal bays whith has limited spase and that tikes a way some of the spase for other ecuepment. It is expensive to bild and mentain and is very expensive to improve or ubgrade and many other capabilities are taken a way fron the stelth planes.

And why are the Eouropians not bilding stelth planes becouse of those resons the same whit the Russians they have the tecnology and they use the some of it in there fithers but not the matirial that obsorbs the radar waves to expencive.Stelth is not something soo fanci.

Stelth is good for bombers not fithers but the only stelth bomber in service is the B-2. B-2 efective I dont know but it shout it cost 2B or two bilion dolars per plane.
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The tail on the latter picture is from a F-16...

Never ever heard or read that a MiG-29 has shot down any F-117... :?
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For the F-16 I know.
And I sow russian TVshow (i think it was Smotor) that was dedecated on the mig-29 and they started whit teling about the serbian mig that was abale to tike off and intercept one F-117.
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Ok, sounds interesting, do you know any site where is told about this (in english)...
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the Russian TV Show was "Udarnaja Sila" from "Perviy Kanal" Channel. But this Show isn't always accurate... too much propaganda for my taste
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Yes verry true the Migs CAN intercept F-117s but only visualy and when they get close range and get into a dog fight the stealth is completly screwed. but i really dont think that the USAF would put the Stealth in that situation.
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