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The information I supplied above came from this supplement.
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why russian have 2 different army in air division

i must be mad if i gonna make an air raid at moscow haha
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This topics is quite a mute question. Perhaps as interesting what toe did Mozart scratched while composing.
No exact numbers, because what is true today will change by next day. That is called "life". Nothing is frozen stiff, industry and corrosion works every day.

But a historical example on how meaningless from practical standpoint the numbers-game:
At the outbreak of WW II. the world's largest air force was the Soviet Air Force. Few (inactive) days later it was not even a factor after the nazi attack. The tank forces of the soviets were meager (many armour-plated agro tractors fought against the panzers too!) therefor it was much harder to obliterate (what does not exist, you can not eliminate with dedicated attacks).
And would anyone tell me how all this effected the outcome of the conflict?
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theres only 2 Su-34 in service with the russian airforce now??
is this correct?
with all the comparason to the F-15E you would think that russia had a few hundred, they must have more than two, two Su-34's are hardly worth factoring into a total?
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they really do only have two,wow...... 2 su-34's and 16 tu-160's and there is still the comparason to the united states 67-72 active B-1B's and 217 F-15E's....
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Now there are more than 2, there must be about 6. Mass production of Su-34 is just beginning (the first 2 were delivered in december 2006), and is still going slow. Anyway, Russia plans to have about 100 for 2015.
Remember that Su-34 is much newer than F-15E: it was mostly developed in the 90's, after the Soviet Union fell, and during that time the project was almost frozen due to lack of funds.
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These days (as in WW II we already have seen) the issue is not how much one party has but how much it can produce. (Luftwaffe vs. USAAF in 1939 and in 1945...)
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Now there are more than 2, there must be about 6. Mass production of Su-34 is just beginning (the first 2 were delivered in december 2006), and is still going slow. Anyway, Russia plans to have about 100 for 2015.
Remember that Su-34 is much newer than F-15E: it was mostly developed in the 90's, after the Soviet Union fell, and during that time the project was almost frozen due to lack of funds.
The SU-34 should be a great platform, im sure it will be just as capable as the F-15E, I just did not know that it was not further along.
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No, I did not mean the small potatoes but the real-time, mobilisable industry-level production capacity. And that is (since mid-eighties!) way ahead in the US of A. Some example: Design from required parameters to fully working shop-drawings level in less than 24 hrs. From approval to floor-manufactured parts almost immediate start (less robot-tests, calibration from preprogrammed data). And almost nil human labor during the production.
MDD Long Beach by 1984 had such plant, albeit that was labelled "experimental proof of concept".
I enclosed a not too ancient test-report for those inspiring to do test-flying.
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