F22 Raptor

[Stealthflanker]

Originally Posted by The Bone

the F-22 has a phased array radar that is limited only by its software, the array is not a problem

hmm i'm kinda disagree with your view, the limit of AESA radar onboard F-22
field of view

and AESA radar's worst limit is her Transmitter Receiver modules, which generates lots of heat, requires larger and more sophisticated cooling system, this wouldn't be a problem for large aircrafts like MiG-31, Sukhoi-27 and F-15E which have a lot of space for cooling system but for small aircraft like JSF, Superhornet and F-16CB60 it would be a problem

[cpb109]

[quote=zb10948]Right now, it's an advantage, but PAK-FA will incorporate more modern technologies than those found on Raptor. IMHO, it will have more capable sensors, helluva more capable weapons, and more capable engines. QUOTE]

Ha!!! where did you get that? what we know about the raptor is just what the americans allow us to know. how can you be so sure what the PAK-FA is advertising is correct? or is it just propaganda to bolster russian ego... everything we have on the raptor and its components are mostly speculation. the americans will keep the real specs of the raptor and its advantages secret. the only way to know which is better is if both aircraft to against each other head to head. and im placing my bet on the raptor. development wise its much more mature than the PAK-FA

[Stealthflanker]

Originally Posted by cpb109

Ha!!! where did you get that? what we know about the raptor is just what the americans allow us to know. how can you be so sure what the PAK-FA is advertising is correct? or is it just propaganda to bolster russian ego... everything we have on the raptor and its components are mostly speculation. the americans will keep the real specs of the raptor and its advantages secret. the only way to know which is better is if both aircraft to against each other head to head. and im placing my bet on the raptor. development wise its much more mature than the PAK-FA

PAKFA advertising ?! there are no such advertising exists, mostly are based on very little information from Sukhoi and unreliable Forum Boards spread over the net..this also applies on F-22's

However if you know some basic in designs you could made very rough estimations from public released data related to Aircrafts and her performance, not all of them are speculations

things that speculated anyway is Raptor's RADAR Cross Section and RADAR performace..as for empty weight where it could determine Fighter's growth potentials are apparent

in terms of maturity however i think you're almost right, however it'll only remains as short term advantages , US only held advantages in top end Stealth technology and Software maturity while Russians currently made a Great achievements in their RCS reduction technology although it's more concentrated for RCS reduction in legacy fighters like Su-27's or their Missiles
in softwares Russian has mastered the same basic technology used by US in their fighters like Pseudo Random Noise Waveform that allows LPI capability and AESA RADAR technology , RADAR Warning Receiver set for F-22 Raptor The ALR-94 are no way different than Russian's new Khibniy-M RADAR warning Receiver , being similar in technology (Channelized Receiver) and likely materials (Gallium Arsenide Low Noise receiver) the only differences is their Packaging and Software set...where American lead with maturity...however due to Globally Available Commercial Take Off Shelf systems the "maturity advantages" however is only a short term advantages

it's likely that PAKFA wouldn't be as sophisticated as Raptor..however in some parameters except RCS it could match Her and in terms of Price..it would be inferior to Raptor

[pseudolife]

all this f22 vs *enter your favorite airplane* really is getting kinda silly. like cpb109 said, what we know about the raptor is only what the USAF tells us, and that is almost certainly misleading. It's standard practice for the US to tell the world our latest and greatest can do "X", then to tell our allies that it can actually do "Y" when all along it really does "Z".

we even have seperate security networks for "US-only" and "US and allies", same classification level but different information, cause lets be honest, we dont trust even our allies.

so to try and figure out on paper which airplane is "better" can never be that accurate because the "real" capabilities cant be known to the general population. I think this applies on boths sides. except with older platforms i suppose enough information is out there on most 4th gen stuff.

as for the f22 vs PAKFA, i certainly hope that the PAKFA will be more advanced than the f22. As far as we know the PAKFA hasnt even flown yet right? rewind the f22 back to that stage of development and we'd be in the mid-late 80s. the PAKFA is 20 years newer than the f22, it had BETTER be more advanced.