Comments on: Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation introduce J-10

By: Kabugaw

Kabugaw — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:36:35 +0000

i think i can see the experimental mig-1.42 in the design, especially the front end of the craft. the tail end though, does resemble that of the f-16. it would be nice to see this plane with thrust vector and compared with say a refale or grippen.

By: Goran

Goran — Thu, 10 May 2007 18:33:27 +0000

I want to tell somethong to Chen-Long.You cannot tell that the J-10 had defeated the Su-27(even if that model of Su-27 wasn’t recent)only because you are chinese(I think).It is not possible that a completely new airplane can defeat an historical one.Look at the techniche characteristics of the planes and then you can talk about them.

By: Chen-Long

Chen-Long — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:56:15 +0000

“Pakistan failed to get new F-16s,and since they are one of the investors of the project, they might have requested the Chengdu factory to include F-16 characteristics in the J-10.”
TovarishSamsonShekovich — January 21, 2007

Well, to make it correct, J-10/殲-10 is NOT a PLA’s joint venture with Pakistan. J-10/殲-10 is a wholly independent project by the Chinese engineer. The supposed joint project with Pakistan should be FC-1/JF-17 (for Pakistan’s role in the developmental stage, it mainly played as fund investor/partner). The major developmental process of JF-17 project has been completed. The first two JF-17 jets（nickname “Thunder” by PAF）have been delivered to Pakistan in early last month (early March, 2007). Pakistan has announced plan to purchase 250 JF-17, 100 more than she had originally planned, by 2015.

As stated above, J-10/殲-10 is a wholly independent project by the Chinese engineer. Furthermore, most people seem to over-exaggerate the role of Lavi design in the developmental process of J-10/殲-10. WS-10A is also a wholly independent production by Chinese engineer, too（not a licensed product）. WS-10A, as matter of fact, is equipped with more thrust power than AL-31F/FN（129.45 Kn vs. 122.58 kN in afterburning）. There are mainly two safety reasons set it back. Firstly, It takes 30 seconds more than AL-31F/FN to ignite the engine before the jet taking off (90 secondes vs. 60 seconds). Secondly, it has lower latitude to re-ignite the engine when as it extinguish in the air.

J-10/殲-10 is primarily designed as air superiority fighter, though it can handle multi-role as the F-16 does. J-10/殲-10 could be more advanced than most people think/believe. To my estimation judging from everything I can gather, J-10’s capability is superior to F-16 C/D Block60. During in over dozen times of PLA-A combat contest in the past years, J-10/殲-10 beat Su-27, J-11 and Su-30MKK every time. It certainly shocked the PLA-A officers. （I was shocked by J-10/殲-10－the Fierce Dragon, too） According to some undocumented source, the PLA-A officers even came across to complain to Russia general about the somewhat less advanced equipment, like radar, on the Su-30MKK. For now, new variant of J-10/殲-10 is under development. Believe me, the J/殲 series fighter is going to be as pronounced as the MiG-, F-, and even Su- series fighter, etc in the aviation combat fighter circle in the coming decades.

By: TovarishSamsonShekovich

TovarishSamsonShekovich — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:14:24 +0000

I believe in the future, there may be long life for all Russian aircraft manufacturers because the state is trying to merge all Russian aircraft manufacturers together to consolidate the aviation industry in Russia,rather than each one remaining individual,some with more capital,some with lesser.The measure intends to make Russian aircraft industry more competitive and to achieve economies of scale within the industry.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:36:17 +0000

TovarishSamsonShekovich, while the Tu-160 might look like the B-1 look at the performance specs…

The Tu-160 > B-1 in every aspect.

By: KARIM

KARIM — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:10:46 +0000

Your Site IS Beautiful………………….. long life for Sukhoi.

By: TovarishSamsonShekovich

TovarishSamsonShekovich — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:05:55 +0000

Yea,very often,there is only one way of solving a problem,the Russian engineers also made such feedback when they were said to be copying the B-1 design on their Tu-160….:-)

By: Blacktail

Blacktail — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:18:58 +0000

The J-10 does look very similar to the JAS-39, and F-16, but that does not neccessarily mean that the J-10 is a “copy” of them. The reason that these aircraft look alike is because similar performance requirements usually result in similar designs.

Example: The FA-18A and Mig-29 have a resemblance to one another because thier requirements for propulsion, stability, and loadout were about the same. They are both twin-engined, have twin stabilizers, look-down shoot-down ability, and large leading-edge-root-extensions. The combat roles they were designed around are similar as well.

So basically, if the J-10 looks like a JAS-39 or F-16, it is because Chengdu had the same design objectives. After all, the same laws of aerodynamics and physics apply to EVERY design, regardless of nationality.

By: TovarishSamsonShekovich

TovarishSamsonShekovich — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:39:20 +0000

To answer Ricardo’s questions.The J-10 was designed by Chinese engineers,Mr.Song Wencong as the Chief designer and Mr.Yang Wei the designer of the Fly-by-wire system.but of course,they may be some reference to some western aircrafts such as the Lavi and the F-16,but not exact copy,just for reference and apply the similar concepts.
And the production of the WS-10A is a fully independent production,it does not need a licence from Russia as it was not designed in Russia.However at the moment,the production of J-10 uses Russian AF-31F engines,but later on it will switch to the indigenous WS-10A as soon as it obtains the approval from the Chinese Authorities.

By: DeSoLaTe

DeSoLaTe — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:00:12 +0000

This plane kills in BF2!!!