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		<title>By: freddan</title>
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		<dc:creator>freddan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The F-16 dominating any plane? Let alone a plane with a state of the art radar? The F-16 was ruled out as a serious contender when Sweden was shopping around for a new figher because it's radar was far from sufficient in capability, I doubt the radars fitted to F-16s today would be good enough...
The F-14 has much more room for radar within the forward fuselage and the diameter of the nose is larger so naturaly it can be fitted with a much better radar than could be fitted in a Mig-29 airframe at the same tech-level, it goes for all airframes... Being a larger aircraft, the F-22 will allways be able to lug around a more capable radar than the F-35.

It's a real eye opener to read "Introduction to airborne radar" by Gearge W. Stimson. He explaines alot about AESA radars and what benefits you get with them... It's well worth reading before you start telling people what aircraft would win...

One thing most people here forget is what threats the respective aircraft were built to handle. Perhaps the Mig-25 wasn't suppoused to fight F-18's but rather fight F-4's. It's kind of like it is with political economics (driving forward but seeing only what's in the rearview-mirror) You'll never know if you succeded or failed until it's too late to fix it. What kind of threat could emerge that renders the F-22 useless (besides "assymetric warfare")??????
Establishing performace parameters for a new fighter is one thing, but you have to establish economic parameters as well before you figure out how to do it and if you want to go at it alone. Somewhere in those calculations you should have at least an idea of how many planes you need to buy to get the desired combined combat effect and singular combat effect.
The USA has chosen to buy the F-22 but it doesn't seem like anyone cares if they get a hundred or a thousand of them as long as they get F-22's instead of F-15's.

I saw someone commenting on the staggering scores of WWII german aces, something about a targetrich environment and poorly trained opponents etc;
The luftwaffe had no rotation like the RAF so many pilots got alot of kills during the battle of Britain for instance... I don't know if the Luftwaffe changed that policy. Marseille fought in north Africa againts british, commonwelth and americans equipped with Hurricanes, Spitfires, P-40's and other types used there.

Finally, internet is not a reliable source of information! You can write what ever you want, it does not have to be true, it could be a flat out lie since the "publisher" is not lialbe like they would be if they printed it! There is no need for factchecking if it's going to be on someone elses server(New York Times would of course be liable for what they publish on their server if it could be taken as facts as opposed to oppinions) I have read at least two different quotes on what the F-14D's top speed is and the USN adds to the confution by having a third listed on their website... there's internet litterature for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The F-16 dominating any plane? Let alone a plane with a state of the art radar? The F-16 was ruled out as a serious contender when Sweden was shopping around for a new figher because it&#8217;s radar was far from sufficient in capability, I doubt the radars fitted to F-16s today would be good enough&#8230;<br />
The F-14 has much more room for radar within the forward fuselage and the diameter of the nose is larger so naturaly it can be fitted with a much better radar than could be fitted in a Mig-29 airframe at the same tech-level, it goes for all airframes&#8230; Being a larger aircraft, the F-22 will allways be able to lug around a more capable radar than the F-35.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real eye opener to read &#8220;Introduction to airborne radar&#8221; by Gearge W. Stimson. He explaines alot about AESA radars and what benefits you get with them&#8230; It&#8217;s well worth reading before you start telling people what aircraft would win&#8230;</p>
<p>One thing most people here forget is what threats the respective aircraft were built to handle. Perhaps the Mig-25 wasn&#8217;t suppoused to fight F-18&#8217;s but rather fight F-4&#8217;s. It&#8217;s kind of like it is with political economics (driving forward but seeing only what&#8217;s in the rearview-mirror) You&#8217;ll never know if you succeded or failed until it&#8217;s too late to fix it. What kind of threat could emerge that renders the F-22 useless (besides &#8220;assymetric warfare&#8221;)??????<br />
Establishing performace parameters for a new fighter is one thing, but you have to establish economic parameters as well before you figure out how to do it and if you want to go at it alone. Somewhere in those calculations you should have at least an idea of how many planes you need to buy to get the desired combined combat effect and singular combat effect.<br />
The USA has chosen to buy the F-22 but it doesn&#8217;t seem like anyone cares if they get a hundred or a thousand of them as long as they get F-22&#8217;s instead of F-15&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I saw someone commenting on the staggering scores of WWII german aces, something about a targetrich environment and poorly trained opponents etc;<br />
The luftwaffe had no rotation like the RAF so many pilots got alot of kills during the battle of Britain for instance&#8230; I don&#8217;t know if the Luftwaffe changed that policy. Marseille fought in north Africa againts british, commonwelth and americans equipped with Hurricanes, Spitfires, P-40&#8217;s and other types used there.</p>
<p>Finally, internet is not a reliable source of information! You can write what ever you want, it does not have to be true, it could be a flat out lie since the &#8220;publisher&#8221; is not lialbe like they would be if they printed it! There is no need for factchecking if it&#8217;s going to be on someone elses server(New York Times would of course be liable for what they publish on their server if it could be taken as facts as opposed to oppinions) I have read at least two different quotes on what the F-14D&#8217;s top speed is and the USN adds to the confution by having a third listed on their website&#8230; there&#8217;s internet litterature for you.</p>
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		<title>By: PROAUDIO</title>
		<link>http://www.aviapedia.com/video/mig-35-video-first-official-presentation#comment-37942</link>
		<dc:creator>PROAUDIO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well sometimes, i got tired reading all this blabling... that the US fihgters are  far away better tah those russians, or viceversa... well the fact is tjat since corean war, no russian and american fighter had a serius math in equal terms of technology, since f-86 vs mig-15 where the hability of the pilot made the diference, but recent encounter are really unequal... like those Navy F-14 vs sirian SU-22, obviusly F-14 where superior thanks to the better avionics an avanced weapon controls... but how can explain that an iraqui mig-25 shotdown an F-18 in the gulf war? been the last one much more modern fighter? and what to say about those maneuver in 2003-04 between Indians SU-30MKI and USAF F-15C? where the Indians pilots  got an achievemet of 3:1 over those USAF fighters? so about what air superiority arw qe talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well sometimes, i got tired reading all this blabling&#8230; that the US fihgters are  far away better tah those russians, or viceversa&#8230; well the fact is tjat since corean war, no russian and american fighter had a serius math in equal terms of technology, since f-86 vs mig-15 where the hability of the pilot made the diference, but recent encounter are really unequal&#8230; like those Navy F-14 vs sirian SU-22, obviusly F-14 where superior thanks to the better avionics an avanced weapon controls&#8230; but how can explain that an iraqui mig-25 shotdown an F-18 in the gulf war? been the last one much more modern fighter? and what to say about those maneuver in 2003-04 between Indians SU-30MKI and USAF F-15C? where the Indians pilots  got an achievemet of 3:1 over those USAF fighters? so about what air superiority arw qe talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to say an upgrade from the Mig-29. oops...</description>
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		<title>By: Chris V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks that an F-14 is a suitable match to the Mig-35 is a retard. As for the -15 and -16 in the hands of the right pilot they could compete with the MIg but with a well trained pilot the Mig would win. The difference that seems to be forgotten is that the Mig-35 is an upgrade of the -27. Glass cockpit, avionics, etc. The F-22 is an all new design built from the ground up. It is in service now. The follow up Mig and Sukoi next gen planes are still in the development stage. They will be formidable aircraft no doubt but they are not in service. And for the knuckle head who thinks that a Mig 25 would have helped win a war for Argentina you are very confused. The fact that the Foxbat was fast enough to run away from real dogfighters points this out. In your scenario would the Migs have joined the battle and then run away and claimed victory? A better air force at that time would have been nice, but there are 20 other types from all over the world that would been better than the -25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks that an F-14 is a suitable match to the Mig-35 is a retard. As for the -15 and -16 in the hands of the right pilot they could compete with the MIg but with a well trained pilot the Mig would win. The difference that seems to be forgotten is that the Mig-35 is an upgrade of the -27. Glass cockpit, avionics, etc. The F-22 is an all new design built from the ground up. It is in service now. The follow up Mig and Sukoi next gen planes are still in the development stage. They will be formidable aircraft no doubt but they are not in service. And for the knuckle head who thinks that a Mig 25 would have helped win a war for Argentina you are very confused. The fact that the Foxbat was fast enough to run away from real dogfighters points this out. In your scenario would the Migs have joined the battle and then run away and claimed victory? A better air force at that time would have been nice, but there are 20 other types from all over the world that would been better than the -25.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seale</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innovative...probably the most advanced aircraft out there with the USA spending all its money elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovative&#8230;probably the most advanced aircraft out there with the USA spending all its money elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: stax-serbia</title>
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		<dc:creator>stax-serbia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Gustavo Canas...True, American pilots can be very cocky but with good reason due to their training and fine aircraft.  However I believe you do not understand WHY the German aces had so many "kills" in WWII.  They entered target rich enviroments filled with brave but less-than-superbly trained pilots from many nations who were equipped with large numbers of obsolescent aircraft which made for easy kills.  The Russians did a superb job against the Germans once they had been equipped with more up to date aircraft (and many of them)later in the war.  Maybe this will be the case for the future with their superb SU-27, MIG-29, and MIG-35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Gustavo Canas&#8230;True, American pilots can be very cocky but with good reason due to their training and fine aircraft.  However I believe you do not understand WHY the German aces had so many &#8220;kills&#8221; in WWII.  They entered target rich enviroments filled with brave but less-than-superbly trained pilots from many nations who were equipped with large numbers of obsolescent aircraft which made for easy kills.  The Russians did a superb job against the Germans once they had been equipped with more up to date aircraft (and many of them)later in the war.  Maybe this will be the case for the future with their superb SU-27, MIG-29, and MIG-35.</p>
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		<title>By: xDx</title>
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		<dc:creator>xDx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course F-15 or F-16 can not handle Mig-35 in any way , thats just talk from a guy that knows shit about avionics , but lets be serius Mig-35 is not in the same league as F-22 Raptor yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course F-15 or F-16 can not handle Mig-35 in any way , thats just talk from a guy that knows shit about avionics , but lets be serius Mig-35 is not in the same league as F-22 Raptor yet</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>es fantastico los mig rusos 35 muy superior creo yo que los f 15 etc  viva rusia mi patria del alma  que por ella lucharia  en una guerra contra los americanos  y la otan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>es fantastico los mig rusos 35 muy superior creo yo que los f 15 etc  viva rusia mi patria del alma  que por ella lucharia  en una guerra contra los americanos  y la otan</p>
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		<title>By: Iraqi_Fighter_Pilot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iraqi_Fighter_Pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice plane. i think its a great upgrade from the mig-29, as you know they upgraded my fav. plane the Mig-25RB that i fly into the Mig-31 foxhound that i wish we had in 1991 then they USAF will have the biggest defeat in history!
mig-35 waw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice plane. i think its a great upgrade from the mig-29, as you know they upgraded my fav. plane the Mig-25RB that i fly into the Mig-31 foxhound that i wish we had in 1991 then they USAF will have the biggest defeat in history!<br />
mig-35 waw</p>
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